So let's just take a second and see where we are here. The Oilers are still without a handful of regulars, including their starting goalie and one of two legitimate top 6 forwards. Majority of the fans had come to the conclusion that this season is pretty much a lost cause and we should change our goal from making the playoffs, to landing a top 3 pick in the draft. And just as it looked like this plan would work out, and the Oilers would finally be able to draft a franchise player, they go out and win 2 games in a row, for the first time since 2006 or something. Fucking hell.
Now I'm not saying that our shot at Taylor or Tyler is completely lost, because believe me it's not. The Oilers are 2 points away from being the bottom of the totem pole in the West, 6 points out of 8th, and one point ahead of Philly for the final lottery slot. In simpler terms; They're still fucked. But isn't this what happens to us, every single year? We come into the season beaming with optimism and hope that this year will be the year that the team finally gets back on the rails and turns itself into a playoff team for years to come, the Oilers come out flying winning 4 or 5 of their first games, then proceed to shit the bed so badly around Christmas that the sale of nooses skyrockets 300% in the city of Edmonton. And then, to add insult to injury, they start playing awesome down the stretch, finishing somewhere between 9th-11th, and fuck themselves out of a high draft pick. FUCK PRIDE! Let's lose for the future!
I also love the paralyzingly fast pace in which sorrow turns to elation with one single win. Seriously, how fast did the Robert Nilsson bandwagon fill back up after the creamy goodness he doled out in Detroit? Have we not seen this song and dance before? Oiler fans are a lot like women living with domestic violence. Robert Nilsson has one good game, so immediately we go rushing back into his warm embrace, like nothing ever happened? Well I for one am not falling for it, and I'll keep my torch lit for when we all try and run him out of town again in a couple weeks. I understand how awesome it is for a sliver of light to shine through during craptacular times like this, but everyone needs to settle down and look at the bigger picture.

This team is not making the playoffs. Plain and simple. Hemsky, Khabibulin, Comrie, Grebeshkov, Pisani, Pouliot, etc are all still hurt. And while only a few of them are legitimate difference makers on any given night, that's still a huge fucking burden to over come, especially on an underskilled team like the Oilers.
And lets say, by some kind of insane miracle, the Oilers do manage to squeek into the playoffs by their short and curlies, can anyone anyone at all see them making it out of the first round? Anyone? Trying to get past the Blackhawks, Sharks or hell even the fucking Calgary Flames in the first round would be a ridiculous uphill battle. Watching your team in playoff hockey is fun as hell, but what's the point if you're just going to get beat out in four games? And then the Oilers end up with another 15-20 pick, who turns into yet another guy in a LONG list of 3rd and 4th line bubble players in the system. Fuck that.
So what do we do know? To tell you the truth I'm not 100 percent sure. I don't think they should just implode the entire team and start from scratch, since there is already a few nice building blocks to work with. But I also don't think they should just stand by and let the cards fall where they may. It needs to be some kind of combination of the two. I think it was Gregor that likened the Oilers situation to that of the Hurricanes a few years back. They got to the cup finals in 2002, then proceeded to immediately shit the bed. But in doing so they managed to draft their franchise player in Eric Staal. And they didn't have to completely blow their team up to do that. They kept old balls like Brind'Amour, Hedican, and Adams, brought in some guys starting to hit their prime with Cole, Williams and Commodore, and just built a solid line up all the way through. And we all know how well 2006 turned out for them, don't we. They didn't blow up their team, but they didn't sit idly by and let the team waste away while trying to plug a hole here or there. This is what the Oilers should be doing, and they should have started it at least 2 years ago.
I don't know, I sound like a broken record here. 4th losing season in a row, and outside of Eberle having an amazing season so far in the WHL and Gagner showing flashes of awesomeness there is nothing to show for it. If there was ever a time to throw a season away and pick up a stud draft pick, now would be the time. Trade away a few players that have some value (Gilbert, Nilsson, O'Sullivan) try and con someone into taking on Moreau's or Staio's contracts, and use these guys to stock up on picks or prospects. Anyone that thinks we're one or two trades away from being a playoff team is out of their fucking minds. If this remodeling is done properly, and we finally groom some of the talent we've drafted, this team could be back in the mix within 2 years or so.
In my perfect world the Oilers would play well like they did for the first two games of this road trip, but still find a way to lose by a goal. But for now I'll just be happy as long as we stay in the basement. Fuck pride. Go Taylor Hall!
The Oilers play the Panthers tonight, and, umm, do the Panthers still suck or what? Last time I saw them play they got into a shooting match against the Leafs. And they lost. So, I guess yeah, they are still shitty. Who knows. I guess we'll find out tonight.
jeanshorts prediction: Oilers 4 - Panthers 5
GOILERS!
IQWT
-jeanshorts


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I still don't understand your undying love of the Oilers winning meaningless games. GET OVER IT!!!
Suffer now and enjoy success in the future, or win games just to miss the playoffs and be just as shitty next year. I'll take the first one.
I just can't bring myself to give a fuck. Of course these stupid fucks will win tonight.... 5-3.
A girl at work suggested a retirement party - where Katz just starts drawing names out of a top hat and if your name comes up, you're retired!
Obviously, not everyone's name goes into the hat. I would put a few names in there more than once to balance it out.
I think they should start running the Oilers via a democracy. Let the fans vote on what moves they should make!
*seriously considers that for half a second and starts bleeding from the eyes*
Can you imagine how that would be? Fuck some of the god damn fucking retards that I see posting around the web sites would make this team super fucking awesome.....
Holy shit it's a packed house in Miami.
Holy fuck Tom Gilbert made a good defensive play using his body to throw a check!
PLAYOFFS!!!!
Well if most of the fans had their way we'd somehow be able to trade for Ovechkin, Kovalchuck, Staal, Kane, Seabrook, among others for Nilsson and Staios and Moreau. So, I mean, how can we lose????
It's fucking embarrassing to see how many "fans" are in the crowd here.
I've seen like 20 Oiler jersey's in the lower bowl. And maybe 5 Florida jerseys.
Clearly Bettman wasn't wrong with all this southern expansion.
Seriously, two fucking Florida teams? TWO? Cuban's don't watch hockey!
I'm actually getting really fucking pissed off about it. That's just ridicucrunkulous.
Do they really need commercials teaching people how to make Disarono and cranberry?
And also wouldn't that taste like absolute shit?
NO! QUINN AND PRINCIPE HAVING A PUN OFF IS THE WORST THING EVER!
Although, still better than having to listen to Loubardius.
OILERS FUCKING HOCKEY AND SUCH!!!
Please let Souray kill that guy.
Thank god they signed a 67 year old goalie to a 4 year deal in the off season.
Really wish JDD would step it up.............................................
What the hell just happened there? Did I just have a stroke? I heard whistles and then music but the play was still going on?
Wait, are they fucking playing Techno DURING the game? Good Lord.
Fucking Florida.
Fuck Toronto. I hoofed it across downtown to my favorite spot to catch some sports. The Loose Moose. I knew the leafs are playing so I'm fucked. BUT. Playing the curling trials on the other screen? Seriously? And a vintage black and white leafs bruins game before the masks on goalies era? Fuck I miss home. Time to slam a few brews and try to get the game online.
When the fuck are you coming home?
There's a soccer team in the English 3rd (?) division where it's group owned and the Owners (fans) make management decisions. They jumped a league with the tards running the ship!
I do not think Oilers fans could handle that shit.
Friday. The good thing is I don't think I'll be going back to Winnipeg any time soon. And I hear it's cooler than a polar bear's toe nails back home. It was above 0 for most of the day here so I guess that's a plus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebbsfleet_United_F.C.
hahahahahaha. That's so fucked up.
Edmonton would burn to the ground if the fans got to weigh in on what the Oilers did.
Wow. Helluva crowd there. Fuck,that's terrible. Remind me again why this is better than 15,000 packed into Winnipeg every goddamn night? Jesus.
I can see how all this expansion made sense at the time.
My biggest beef is that Bettman REFUSES to budge even the slightest bit and conceded that maybe, just maybe his expansion was a horrible and utter failure.
If he ever manned up for once in his life I probably wouldn't loathe him as much as I do.
PLAYOFFS!!! TRADE HORCOFF!!!
Playoffs?
PRESIDENTS TROPHY!!!!ZOMFG11!!!1!!!ONE!!1one!!!!
YYYAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY dive for five baby!!!!
Oh fart. Back in the Lottery.
What a beauty goal!
JDD SUKS WE SHUD GET RID OF HIM AND GET LUONGO!
What NFL team was it that got busted with the canned crowd noise? They should do that in Miami.
That was a chincy elbow call. He got him with mostly shoulder there.
Holy fucking hands Gagner....
Good work O'Sullivan.
Seriously why is this guy so fucking shy when it comes to taking a hit? Quinn needs to Orr the fuck out of this kid and toughen him up.
So I had a few at the Pint on Saturday night. You ladies are going to love it. Top-shelf chicks and shitloads of big-screen HD goodness. Better get there early because it lines up pretty bad.
Ok. So about the game. Holy shit its kinda chunky so far. And what's this "losing" shit? Losing is for losers! You know they go 4 for 5 on this trip and they're right back in it. Right? RIGHT?
Dakin, I'd be much more enthusiastic if it wasn't the goddamn Oilers who would be making the selection. Last Franchise Oiler drafted Top 5?
*ponders title of Game threads*
Dammit I missed the Jacques hit. All I heard was DeBrusk sounding like he left it all in his pants.
Oh there it is. Meh, it was pretty solid.
Victor Orsecovich sounds like a solid football name.
So.... Are we doing it at the pint? Haven't heard much of the plan.
So does "He Hates Me"
What the fuck man? Yes. 28th. The Pint. I guess if it gets busy I'll try and be there by like 430-5 since it is a game day and all.
Jeanshorts And Baggedmilk said...
Good work O'Sullivan.
Seriously why is this guy so fucking shy when it comes to taking a hit? Quinn needs to Orr the fuck out of this kid and toughen him up.
Didn't his dad already give that whirl. That little fucker seems to have a listening problem
Looks like juice boy is becoming penalty boy. Arghhhhh!!!
Fuck you! You said you would mention it in the next "first Star, Worst Star" Which is fucking nowhere to be seen.
EEEHHHHHH OOOOHHHH.
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe he got hit too much. Too much of a good thing I guess.
Although I am pretty certain he pictures his dads face as the puck every time, cause boy he loves to hammer that thing off anything and everything but the soft twine.
Hockey Gods??!?!?!?!?
Holy fuck between you and Rusty making an appearance tonight.... Well I know what I'm going to be doing during the intermission.
So, y'know how Penner went from lazy overpaid donair pile to possibly being the player Kevin Lowe assured us would be underpaid at some point of his contract?
What if Nilsson steals Penner's magic beans or special turn-around-juiceor whatever, and starts being consistently better than the guy they dished out 2 mil/per for?
I'll tell you what - 9th place,baby! WOOOOO!!!!! OPTIMISM!!!!
Sully didn't shoot?
AKJASLKJFLKJA WHAT THE FUCK SULLY! 3 ON 1 YOU DUMB FUCK! GAAAHHH!!
Actually, good. We don't need to win. But still. Fuck.
How in the fuck does Patty O'Shy-away mess up a THREE ON ONE?????????
Penalty. There you go JS. Feel better now you cock?
Oh! I miss Hockey Gods!
And what a return. Buh-ZING!!!
Listening problem. Gold!
Fuck I love the internet. The feed is actually pretty decent tonight. I still can't believe I paid $9 for a pint of beer out here. Fuck this place and its hate for booze. Alright Oil... entertain me.
YEah hey boys it's been a while, I've been busy. Bouh this UB3 Graber thingy of off the internet. You beat off with it like a pocket pussy... fuck boys I am painting the ceiling and I have vaulted ceilings.
Jesus christ. 9 bucks? That beer better have been served out of Marissa Miller's pussy. Either that or in a clear plastic cup at Rexall.
Bouh this UB3 Graber thingy of off the internet.
Was this supposed to make sense?
*googles Marissa Miller*
Just joking... I have had the UB3 for years. I now spend a lot of time on the road for work, it helps with my hobby as a serial killer. But don't worry I have been lurking, just not a lot of time for comments
*Pours beer onto screen to hope it seeps into her Vagina so he can drink said beer from inside said vagina*
Looks like HG is workin' da iPhone.
Are you coming to the party on the 28th?
Holy fuck. That doesn't look good.
hahaha HUGE hit by Allen!
Colin Campbell's Wheel Of Justice must be spinning off it's axis right now!
Dakin said...
Bouh this UB3 Graber thingy of off the internet.
Was this supposed to make sense?
Fuck you my hands are slippery with the lube.
Bought the UB3 Grabber off of the internet... seriously though google it.
Wow. I thought Edmonton had a locker-room rift, but these Panthers sure seem to fucking hate each other....
Yeah it's nuts. In Winnipeg the pints went anywhere from $3.25 on special topping out at $4.75. Here it's twice the fucking price. Plus there's only a few liquor stores downtown and they're hidden in more residential areas. I can only imagine how much loot they'll need to pull from the bank to cover our Christmas party on Thursday. Seeing as it starts at 4:30 and goes until 5:30 in the morning, we'll be out of business come Monday.
Isn't that the shitty band that sang "Red Red Wine?"
*googles UB3 Grabber and finds absolutely nothing that would fit in with what you have been talking about....*
Rusty and Hockey Gods? Are you two fucks going to be joining us on the 28th?
I found out that a UB3 was a World War I German submarine. So. I mean. I guess that has to be it right? Makes sense........
They play the flames that night right?
I am at the oiler game... maybe afterwords though.
i found that the UB3 was some sort of Drill which would make a lot of sense.
@Dakin... I did the same thing and didn't find any sort of device to help me bank shot off the tv, banking off the lamp and finishing up all over the drapes. Hotel trick-shots are a way of life on the road.
After will work because I plan on shutting er down.
Wait, MPS called the Canadians pussies or some such shit?
Are you in Toronto Rusty? If so, that explains the $9 beers.
Magnum can call Canadian's whatever the fuck he wants as long as he comes across the Atlantic in the next year or two and scores truckloads of goals!
Ugh. Cam Abney. They drafted a fucking second round goon?
You're right Dakin, let's let 'em draft us to greatness...
I got me the 28th off... followed by the next day off... followed by... well I get a lot of time off over the holidays. I think I might be headed to the Oil game too, but not 100% sure yet. At some point on the 28th I should be revealing myself in the mens room at The Pint.
I'll bring a Costco box of condoms!
Yeah I'm in the big smoke.. or whatever the turn of phrase is for this lovely smut hole nowadays. Thank fuck I'm right in the heart of downtown. They wanted me to move out here, but fuck that noise. I love working at home and then coming out here whenever I'm needed.
And I'll bring a whole to put it in....
But only if you're wearing a Souray jersey...
*really just joking... please don't try to fuck me.*
Has the Pint begun installing Glory Holes in the Men's room to prepare for this shit show?
HAHAHA MPS is awesome. First telling us that we'll shit our pants at the sight of the mighty Swedes... now calling us pussies?
*thinks of all the burnt out goal lights caused by MPS in 2 years... gets massive erection*
Ok so who the fuck is coming?
Role call.... JS, Travis, Poo Czar, The Towel Boy.....
Buck75 said he might show up.
I'll post something on the Nation this week *PROMISE* and we'll wrangle more people that way too.
Either way we should probably call the Pint and tell them to get the waitresses to bring a couple extra pairs of panties because they're going to need them!
OOOOHHHHHH WWWWWEEEEEEEE
I bet Jeanshorts is writing that "First Star, Worst Star" article right now since I reminded him...
Tell me I'm wrong JS....
Sometimes I get the sickening feeling that every small skilled Oiler draft pick is gonna turn into Ralph Intranuovo. But in a bad way.
If all these little fuckers work out, it's gonna be rad, but I tend to doubt it. Omark, MPS, Eberle, Rajala, plus the midgets already here... When we gonna get Messier 2.0?
*wonders if that Scientist at ON is any good at Genetics*
Or not......
Yes call them and tell them to have a few spare kegs ready to go...
To be fair MPS is 6'1, 200 lbs. So he's no spring daisy.
But those other guys, some of them would probably have a hard time getting on the Mindbender.
JS- I'm 6'1 and 200lbs and believe me, that don't mean shit.
I'm out. "Stuck" in the mountains for a week.
You sure you wanna send it out the the minions off newcomer HFers at ON? I thought you fellows wanted to hold hands and quote Twilight in a quiet corner?
fucking fuck.
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKAROOOOO
Well as much as there is a ridicoulus amount of retards coming out of the woodwork lately, I'm pretty sure none of them would ever show their face at some kind of public function, let alone leave their basement to go do something cool.
Woah good call Poo Czar.... If one of the dreaded five show up, I may have to throw down. Then I will take back that shit I just said about being 6'1 and 200lbs.
UR3 Grabber, fuck I am out of it... but not a liar.
If a bunch of loudmouth little fucks show up, I personally nominate all 6'7" of the Admiral to make unrelenting aggressive sexual advances.
Not sure how this differs from his usual pub behaviour.
I wouldn't worry about the HF crew at ON. They're mostly high school kids. Won't pass the ID check at the Pint. Ha ha suckers!
Dakin - situationally huge.
*wink*
*googles UR3 Grabber and realizes he already has one....*
speaking of extra pairs of panties. The weird thing out here is every bar has a rack at the top of the place that's filled with bras that chicks take off and give to the bar. Even the Loose Moose which isn't exactly a place that gives chicks the motivation to free their twins. Toronto does seem to do a few things right.
I like having someone named "Lubomir" on a hockey team.
Poo Czar- I'm a grower, not a shower.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! LUBO LUBO LUBO!!
That was an awfully big screen. Nice.
Why the fuck couldn't they have played like this all year? Seriously? FUCK
I prefer cheap ginch in my mouth, not on my walls.
A shower? a SHOW-er
Wait, they still have strippers at the Pint right?
Unless you shower js in piss...
What Dakin and I do over web cam is no ones business but ours, and the people that pay to watch it.
They will THAT night!
Wait. NOT a SHOW-er. Their loss!
Exactly. It's my business.
Well this game got a little more amped up huh?
I'd fuck Cassie Campbell.
Yes I would.
ok BIG SEX!!!!
I'd fuck Ron MacLean.
Admit it...
I'd fuck Ron MacLean purely out of respect.
And then I'd punch Cassie Campbell in the mouth and tell her to shut the fuck up.
Oh she wouldn't be allowed to talk.... Just take it.
There was a time when I really think, given the chance, I'd have fucked Silken Laumann.
I am not proud of this fact.
I'd just be wary of her trying to eat my dick like a carrot.
Those quads and Traps!!!!!
One of our all-time equestrian Olympians.
Errbody clap yer hands!
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Jesus Christ I hope no one ever has to ask O'Sullivan an important question because he has to be the worst decision maker of all fucking time.
right up there with Kevin Lowe and Peter Pocklington
And all of our parents
@ Jeanshorts - Ahhh-hahahaha! So fucking true.
Oh, and the Jews.
ESPECIALLY the Jews.
How the fuck have we forgotten the Jews?!?
Wow. JDD. Le BAAAA?
Stay the fuck in net JDD you fuck. Jesus!!!!!!
HAHA there are times when I have to take a step out of the conversation because I wasn't clever enough to think of a good screen name.
Imagine if JDD didn't have to wallow around on various minor league teams, and got to play actual games when he was younger?
Perhaps we wouldn't have had to sign a two 45 year old goalies in a row.
And perhaps he'd learn how to play the fucking puck, or more importantly how not to play it all the god damn time.
Marty Turco he is not.
Is it wrong that I am hoping the Panthers score?
Sweet mother of god do we suck in the last few minutes of a game.
Rammstein!!!!
You're just not as much of a pussy Dakin.
ANONYMITY!!!
No, just not clever.
How many of the 1,700 in attendance know the game's not over after the "Third Quarter"?
There's not enough laps in this hockey game.
Where's the checkered flag???????
Well Dakin, I have a back-up "clever old Oiler name" I might be willing to part with. FOR A FEE...
I am on the Dakin, tank it bandwagon. But I am hoping for the tie, OT and a 15 round shootout. Not because I want the W, but because I know there are a bunch of assholes in red drinking down south irrately waiting for this game to end. These are my little victories
Welp. 5 points already this road trip. Not bad. Not bad at all.
HAHAHAHA I was just thinking that!!! Fuck Calgary.
HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THAT! A HOT GIRL! AT A HOCKEY GAME! DANCING! ON THE ICE! OHMYGOD!!!!!!!!!
Well, they at least know how to do one thing right in the south.
Chicken and Waffles seems like something done right in the south too.
Why does that french fuck always cover his ears after a period. Does he hate what that chug Souray has to say or something?
I think Patches Dad needs to teach him a lesson in listening.
Fuckin Goalies
And cars riding on cartoonishly big rims.
Fucking O'Sullivan. Maybe he's the guy who's on the "dive" payroll.
And lynchings.
I could go for a good, old fashioned cross burning!
*throws his white sheets in the wash with extra bleach*
That's a weak fucking call.
4 on 3 boys! Ha ha!
WTF is JDD doing?!?
Especially in over time. They put the whistles away in the third, actually pretty much all game, and it was fucking refreshing.
Ah well. Good thing we have a horrible power play!
I''l burn a cross because I hate religion. I can say that. Fuck religion.
Way to go Horcoff. If you didn't get in the way Gagner's shot was in! TRADE HIM! HE'S LIKE WALKING AIDS!
The Oil draw bigger crowds for practice at Millennium Place in the Park. Tragic.
@Dakin
And by religion you mean all other races right?
Florida has the 29th BEST PK in the league, you harsh critic assholes...
haha yes.
Tell me how the shit you don't score on a 4 on 3. HOW???
*starts playing Bad Religion in background*
How exactly do we have a 4 on 3 and can't make a simple pass when we're setup on the PP...
@David S
And you still want this team to try and squeek into the playoffs?
TAYLOR HALL OR BUST!!!!
Love Bad Religion!
hahaha whiffcoff!!!!
HOLY FUCK WHAT AN ENDING!
Well fuck I'll say this much; this game has been WAY more exciting than I ever thought it could be.
YyyarrrgglleslJHFGB.
Ahhh Studwick could have had the winner...w ait in a minute... WTF was Jason STUDwick doing on the ice in the last minute of overtime?
YyyarrrgglleslJHFGB.
Indeed
Yeah. Strudwick - offensive juggernaut you want on the ice at the end of a game you want to win.
WTF was Jason STUDwick doing on the ice in the last minute of overtime?
Dive for 5?
If Tomas Vokoun was black would Principe make a Vo-COON joke?
Hmmm....
And he is a defensive juggernaught as well. I think Quinn wants Hall as well... as do I
IQWT
Look JS. These guys play the best they can and don't make the playoffs, that's cool. Fact is, one *maybe* hotshot draft pick isn't going to make this team a cup contender if the rest if these guys don't get their shit together. You really want to suck for 3 more years before we grab enough 1st rounders to develop another 2 years before we MIGHT get a shot at a deep run? REALLY?????
Poo Czar said...
If Tomas Vokoun was black would Principe make a Vo-COON joke?
Hmmm....
LMFAO
Keep the moves down to less than twelve, Sully...
David S.
One franchise player to go with some of the pieces already in place would definitely work.
You goatie fuck of a goalie.
How about that Nilsson piece of shit hey??!!!?!?!
Fluky Wolf Eyes!
YEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIRRRR
Comrade Horcov! Two for two!!!!!!!!
"... so you can see, it's not the first time Ballard tried to kill a COON. Back up to you, Kevin"
We've already been "rebuidling" for 4 years, and have missed the playoffs those 4 years, and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
So yes, yes I would rather take a chance at gambling on a hot prospect, rather than finishing 10th in the west and stocking up on yet another 3rd line grinder.
I'm all for the players going out there and busthing their nuts in the game, because that's what they are supposed to do. You can't go into the room and be like "Okay boys, so we want a hot draft pick next year, so why don't you just go shit the bed. Thanks". They want to win every night, I get that.
And I'm not against them winning and playing well, I just wish that A) they would do it with more consistancy and B) would do it BEFORE they've fucked themselves out of the playoffs.
I don't think a Taylor Hall is imedietly going to turn this team around next year, but it's going to help a hell of a lot more than having Ethan Moreau not take penalties and Shawn Horcoff whiff on 7 out of 10 rather than 9 out 10 this season.
The assumption is that this miracle pick is going to walk in and be a star. You know it doesn't always work that way huh?
Fact is, this team isn't shitty enough to finish low enough for a lottery pick. They'd have to tank for real and no way does a pro athlete do that and wake up in the morning with any pride.
No David S, we're not talking complete rebuild here. Just reload and build on the foundation we have. Just think, dump some of the Vets (Pisani, Staois, Moreau etc for picks) and Gilbert or Grebs (not both, preferably Gilbert) for a decent young NHL ready forward. Finish bottom 3 this year and get a true stud.
Next year, we contend for the playoffs, likely finish in the 6-11th range. Get another mid to high end draft pick and we will be solidly build for a few years to come; and possibly a contender in 3 to 5 years. By year 3 we would be a definate playoff team.
No one wants suck for the next 3 years, just this year and be a more competitve bubble team next year.
holy fuck 190+ comments.
Better odds: getting a top 5 pick that turns into a franchise saver, something that may not happen with any single player in a given draft year?
Or busting ass to get into the playoffs, living through a liver-destroying Battle of Alberta, and being giddy as shit for a few weeks?
I agree that there is no science to the draft, and a top pick is just as likely to bust out as they are to become the next Crosby.
But I have the same stance on this as I do with MacT; I didn't hate MacT, and thought he was a decent coach, but what he was doing clearly stopped working. It was time to change it up.
Same with the direction this team and management are heading. They've been trying to make this team better by picking up a guy here or there, and trying to plug holes, while leaving others to bleed out. And it clearly hasn't worked.
So what's the harm in trying a different way of turning this team around? I cited Carolina in my preamble there. They got to the finals, shit the bed the next year, got a couple high picks, and within 2 years they were back in contention and a couple after that they won a cup. They didn't have to go through a Pittsburgh or Chicago complete rebuild where the team was garbage for 5 years or more. Edmonton can do the exact same thing. Although that is putting a lot of stock into management making correct moves, and I'm not holding my breath on that.
In conclusion: I'm always right. Taylor Hall!!!!
Bust ass to get into the playoffs. Make some moves at the trade deadline. See how it works out. Trade or waiver the weak links this summer. Add up some good players on trades or maybe an offer sheet. Next year is round three. That's all you can ask for. Its not like you flip a switch and its the cup finals.
Not convinced.
*Checks Lowetide to see what I should think*
Although that is putting a lot of stock into management making correct moves, and I'm not holding my breath on that.
Overall roster make-up has a HUGE influence on whether or nor the addition of one or 2 young studs can swing the fortunes of the whole franchise. What kind of improvements are the Oil currently best suited to adapt to?
Fuck if I know. I'm practically retarded.
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